If a commercial DVD of Pan's People performances was produced would you...

Although I voted for option 1, 'Buy it as soon as it's released', I'd only go down that route if I was sure that Pan's People we're being payed royalties from my purchase, otherwise I'd have to just be content with the files that I've already got!

This would have to be an official BBC release,as that would mean good quality,and hopefully royalties for the dancers.What i wouldn't buy is a bootleg DVD.Being mainly a Legs & Co fan i would love a DVD of their work,with extras of course,like an interview and rare dances like Oxygene,Boogie Nights or Nights On Broadway.There are bootleg DVDs of TOTPs on iOffer,and one of Legs & Co.If we never get an official release then i'll make do with my TOTPs tapes and YouTube clips.

Good poll PP4ever.  I admit I would buy pretty much anything if it contained rare or unseen performances as I have long realised that my principles are weaker than my "pursuit of Happiness".  I do see the problems in people profiting from these recordings and the Artists themselves receiving nothing and I  struggle with this but I'm only human and these dancers are pretty marvellous and trying to obtain rare/wiped performances is a strong ambition I know I share with many others here.

I would buy it even if it's contents are already on Youtube, however, stuff that have never been seen before would be a real bonus.

Dave

Hi pp4ever yes I agree it is sad if only 12 people on this forum say they'd buy a legit Pans dvd  it if it came to fruition.

I voted on the Yes, I would buy a Pans People dvd if it was made available, but I think the Pans people members should all get a decent fee for their work.

Hi all, just catching up with things after a wee break.  It's a shame that responses were so low, and indeed to most of the polls.  Seems polls need to be up for a couple of months to get votes to 20 odd.  Perhaps it could be reopened?  I could perhaps have sent out a message to all encouraging a response, or highlighted it with a banner in case many didn't see it.

But it's a truism that only a small minority take the time to express their opinions:  the rule of thumb for community websites is that 90% (at least!) of visitors will never register, 90% of those who register will never post, of those who post it's likely to be a couple of times.

But from our small sample the results seem not wholly disappointing.  I think people have dreamed about a DVD for ages, and perhaps the lack of response is that people see it as a pipe dream that will likely never reach fruition (it had been discussed on pp.net almost in despairing terms years ago).

I do agree with pp4ever that viability depends on a willingness to buy, as opposed to wait for copies.  Perhaps the proliferation of YT videos on the dancers is largely down to to almost total absence in the first place of any commercial output, with fans having to piece together personal and other recordings to fill a gap.  I hope most would love the chance for decent quality DVDs to be produced.  I'd say the issue of copying etc is ubiquitous these days on the web, and maybe it shouldn't be too surprising that fans are no different.  And perhaps some have become so used to fuzzy YT videos they can't envisage anything better, or even have forgotten how to appreciate quality, I don't know!  If a commercial DVD were available, we'd obviously promote it to the max!

I have certainly always been conscious of the lack of proper remuneration to the dancers by the BBC, and would love to see a commercial release that would earn some long overdue royalties for the dancers.  I've thought as well if there's any way we can contribute in some way.  All here try to pay back in our comments and threads, but can more be done?  If there's anything that can be done, we can look into it...

I missed the vote...unlike past times ( ppeople.net days, when i was a moderator along wi panfan), my time is restricted these days. But, my vote you can add..option 1.that would take it to 12. Out of the sample. Thats the important thing...a sample.

The people on this website...only a small fraction are active in any way. The sample results are prob representative of the whole....maybe skewed into no 1 actually, we are 'hardened' fans. Hardcore...

I agree with pp4ever, the sentiment..expressing ..improbable...not gonna happen... I think is far too conservative. It is true that there are problems...but its also true as I have pointed out before in 'net ' days...there are similar dvds available, infact theres an exact analog here in Oz...the equivalent of Totp...dvds became available...dance troupe n everything..solid gold dancers...original music..the lot !! And dont forget Oz has only the population of London ! ,

I maintain...release a P P dvd...in time for christmas...proper production..IT WILL BE SNAPPED UP ..for dads n granddads..the sales will be very good.

Which brings me to the point by panfan...as I also xpressed before in the 'net' days...we as a site should also be pushing, enabling, inducing, encouraging, fair remuneration for PP members. yes, they got paid originally...poorly by any reckoning, yes the 'legal' status held by the BBC is what it is..they dont 'have' to change that.

But we live in a time where legal arguments are not the only power...I know this from my own work...infact Embarassment ..media, publicity, is a way to change things. And it works.
As also said, a BBC release may not be the only avenue for this...there can be agreements to use bbc material. Not only that, if Flicks recordings..are abailable and intact...there are some on there the bbc do not have. Infact the bbc discarded ..by choice or incompetence..many videoed routines. Therefore what they do not ave can be argued legally to be property of the holder..maybe Flicks estate? Or maybe its in another of Pans members hands ?...

I simply dont agree its not possible, nor improbable, as long as the legwork is done, and the Pans members wants this.
I do want the Pans members to significantly benefit from this. Bloody hell...theyre the creators !
Were their supporters! Or should be.

Some years ago, for a *very large sum* I was offered some pans routines..many..on a vtape..I declined. Even though I really wanted. Many probably appeared on utibe a few years after ..but what must exist are good or decent quality routines...even of those weve seen..sometimes questionable in quality.
Maybe the holy grail...down down...could also be put out..we know it exists still...it probably changes hands at some significant sum.

An official release, benefitting Pans, maybe containing some rare routines, maybe sourced from Pans members tapes themselves..or other private collectors willing (suspect one tv insider at least). Would help to end excessive bootlegging charges also..that money going in some extent back to Pans.

regardless, an official pans dvd..maybe with interviews, voice overs from Pans members etc..like we see in some dvds..I am convinced would sell to a large fraction of an entire male generation, using normal advertising. If they had their head screwed on, the BBC, would also realise this.